Is having mickey mouse pjs shameful? no. But if i had guessed that you have mickey mouse pjs by something you wrote online which other people couldn't understand, I'd be a bit pleased, in a voyeuristic and immature kind of way.
Ah, it was glue indeed. Well my friend's dog is retarded and I'm sure he'd eat glue. Then again, my cats eat spiders and grass. Who do you think I voted for?
You ask what relevance CA's comment has to the discussion at hand? For a long time now CA's comments have been negligibly relevant. Not that this is a bad thing.
Just because you cannot follow my line of reasoning doesn't mean my comments are not relevant. As Gevurah said, "all I write makes sense to me". Reminds me of my Math teacher.
Did you know that when Romans got married, the husband carried the wife across the threshold (that’s where the traditions starts), and she would start off their life together by taking a torch and lighting the fireplace? Then, she would throw the torch to the crowd of guests, and they would wrestle for who got to keep the torch as a segulah for getting married next.
The difference between facetiousness and sarcasm is not in quantity of humor, but in quality of humor. And obviousness. The latter openly mocks something.
For example, when gas prices were really high, one time there was a guest speaker talking to graduate students. He said something to the extent of US invading Iraq only to get control over the gas. To which I answered: “This is why gas prices are so low, right?” It was obvious I was not being serious and was mocking his liberal idiocy. So, this was sarcasm.
Now, a friend of mine who is a kindergarden teacher just posted the following question: “Does anyone have any ideas for Black History month that I can teach my Kindergarteners who have little to no contact with people outside the orthodox Jewish community?”
I answered: “Crown Heights riots”.
Now, that answer is not mocking anything. Maybe it’s very subtly mocking the concept of black history month, political correctness and forcing friendly relationship between Jews and Blacks. But for the most part, it’s just saying something bizarre and ridiculous. Also, it’s not very obviously a joke (in fact, it doesn’t look like my friend got I was joking). So, this makes it facetious.
Merriam-Webster Main Entry: fa·ce·tious Pronunciation: \fə-ˈsē-shəs\ Function: adjective Etymology: Middle French facetieux, from facetie jest, from Latin facetia Date: 1599 1 : joking or jesting often inappropriately : waggish (just being facetious) 2 : meant to be humorous or funny : not serious (a facetious remark)
Main Entry: sar·casm Pronunciation: \ˈsär-ˌka-zəm\ Function: noun Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwarəs- to cut Date: 1550 1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain 2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm
Does it make you feel like that?
ReplyDeleteIt did.
ReplyDeleteBut now you've said bye to all disillusion, confusion, etc?
ReplyDeletemaybe that's what moshiach feels, waiting for us...
ReplyDeletee might be the last frame
ReplyDeleteI laughed at your option for the non-profit spammer. he is really part of the family now, isn't he??
ReplyDeleteunfortunately.
ReplyDeleteI see you went realistic in your vote, instead of trying to be funny.
ReplyDeletei didn't vote yet
ReplyDelete"if it wasn't you, than who was it?" dun, dun, dun....!
ReplyDeletewell, there are now two votes. One is mine and one is the mystery voter. I shan't tell you which is mine.
ReplyDeleteTeehee...
ReplyDeleteI was on your blog when you only had one vote, so I think I know which is yours
ReplyDeleteyou think n ever gets tired?
ReplyDeleten?
ReplyDeleteThat robot reminds me of the horse from Animal Farm.
ReplyDelete1. you're assuming that i voted before the mystery voter.
ReplyDelete2. if N runs linearly, then yes. N would get tired. But if N runs exponentially or factorially, I think N can get far enough without getting tired.
trs: notice the new title
ReplyDeletesarabonne: please refresh the assembled's memory and describe the horse's salient features.
Gracious me, you've changed your title yet again.
ReplyDeleteYou're becoming fickle e. Very fickle. Ho hum...
not fickle, just waiting to find a good title.
ReplyDeleteDuly noted.
ReplyDeleteThe horse kept taking on more work when times became rough.
ReplyDeleteand then it got taken away to be turned into.... :( I cry
ReplyDeleteThere there Yossi, it's not all bad.
ReplyDeleteBUT IT IS!! did you read it?
ReplyDeleteThe horse made many dogs happy. I'm sure he was delicious.
ReplyDeleteOk, Sarabonne and trs, I have my suspicions as to whom you voted for.
ReplyDeletethey ate him? I thought they were gonna make him into glue.
ReplyDeletethere should be a way for the blog authors to see who voted what, it would be much more interesting...
ReplyDeleteyeah, e's right. it was glue
ReplyDeletemaybe dogs eat glue?
ReplyDeleteYossi: It's a work of fiction. Did you cry when Bambi's mommy got shot?
ReplyDeletee: What, is it something to be ashamed of?
I don't remember. probably. of course, I'm a big dork with crying. I had a tear the first time I watched the jk wedding entrance dance.
ReplyDeleteIs having mickey mouse pjs shameful? no. But if i had guessed that you have mickey mouse pjs by something you wrote online which other people couldn't understand, I'd be a bit pleased, in a voyeuristic and immature kind of way.
ReplyDeletesame thing with the poll.
Ah, it was glue indeed.
ReplyDeleteWell my friend's dog is retarded and I'm sure he'd eat glue. Then again, my cats eat spiders and grass.
Who do you think I voted for?
hmm, I don't know if you really meant voyeuristic. extremely disturbing if you did
ReplyDeletethe equine non-profit spammer.
ReplyDeletejk wedding entrance dance?
ReplyDeletee, I did not vote for the spammer.
ReplyDeletehey, maybe we can set up NPS with the chinese pornography spammer?
ReplyDeleteWell I do need a good laugh here and there.
ReplyDeletetrs, it only had like 41 million views on youtube, and appeared on the office. where have you been?
ReplyDeleteyossi: i meant it figuratively. I don't get turned on by mickey mouse pjs.
ReplyDeleteUm, my comment was in response to e's response btw.
ReplyDeleteYossi: NPS?
ReplyDeletee: What are you turned on by?
trs: i was saying who sarabonne voted for. I guess you voted for "why isn't e included?"
ReplyDeletetrs: you ask to plumb the deepest mysteries.
My rabbi's wife said she no longer reads books that have "Garden of..." in their title.
ReplyDeleteCA: the relevance of that statement to the the discussion at hand...
ReplyDeleteDid you steal that cartoon from my wall? Or do you also read Gizmodo?
ReplyDeleteYou were talking about titles.
ReplyDeletee: If I come tonight will you tell me?
ReplyDeleteYou ask what relevance CA's comment has to the discussion at hand? For a long time now CA's comments have been negligibly relevant. Not that this is a bad thing.
Just because you cannot follow my line of reasoning doesn't mean my comments are not relevant. As Gevurah said, "all I write makes sense to me". Reminds me of my Math teacher.
ReplyDeleteca: neither. I subscribe to xkcd in reader
ReplyDeletetrs: If you get me very drunk, which i don't recommend because i have to move tomorrow.
ca: god should save us from such math teachers.
e: which god?
ReplyDeleteWhich one?
ReplyDeleteI'd help you move if I wasn't occupied otherwise tomorrow. I love moving. (I know, I may be the only person. I think it reminds me of early youth.)
trs, nps is nonprofit spammer
ReplyDeleteAll becomes revealed.
ReplyDeletehmmm
ReplyDeleteSo, what’s the answer? Why isn’t e an option? Inquiring minds wish to know.
ReplyDeletebecause the author of the poll knew that e isn't on the market.
ReplyDeleteWell, I guess now nobody else will vote for that choice, since we all know the answer.
ReplyDeleteWe all know you just want to win and hope that nobody else votes for e!
ReplyDeleteYou saw through my shrewd plan.
ReplyDeleteDid you know that when Romans got married, the husband carried the wife across the threshold (that’s where the traditions starts), and she would start off their life together by taking a torch and lighting the fireplace? Then, she would throw the torch to the crowd of guests, and they would wrestle for who got to keep the torch as a segulah for getting married next.
The guests didn't get burned?
ReplyDeleteI assume the torch was extinguished first.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the couple was forbidden to marry unless both the girl and the guy consented. The sign of consent was them appearing in public, holding hands.
the mars rover seems to have unshakable emunah and seems to be a real kabalas olnik.
ReplyDeleteNo comment on the actual post.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: should i be offended that i only got one vote or pleased that i got any?
We'll miss ya
ReplyDeleteawm: was that comment supposed to be here or on fb?
ReplyDeleteMaybe he was talking about the robot...
ReplyDeleteAre you talking about the robot or awm?
ReplyDeleteI thought e was referring to the messiah.
ReplyDelete“Hashem protected us from Bogdan Chmel’nitzkij, he can protected us from Moshiach”?
ReplyDeleteHe did a terrible job with the first one, but the second is going along pretty well.
ReplyDeleteHe protected that particular couple.
ReplyDeleteAnd what a good shidduch they make too!
ReplyDeleteDo they? What makes you say that?
ReplyDeleteI was being facetious.
ReplyDeleteI hate when people do that.
ReplyDelete(If only e knew that I was being facetious about hating when people are facetious, he would call this a meta-comment. As well as this parenthesis.)
ReplyDeleteIf only.
ReplyDeletewhat's the difference between sarcasm and facetiousness?
ReplyDeleteThere are three levels, in ascending orders of being a jerk. Facetiousness, sarcasm, being caustic.
ReplyDelete1. is it merely a matter of degree?
ReplyDelete2. does sarcasm and its cohorts necessarily indicate jerkhood?
1. I believe so.
ReplyDelete2. No. Facetiousness is usually kindly meant.
1. that's a poor excuse to have three different words.
ReplyDelete2. then why is it one of the levels of jerkhood?
Perhaps these two questions can answer each other.
1. I bet you one of them is French.
ReplyDelete2. Because people can think you're being a jerk even when you didn't mean to be (for example, online).
2. true that.
ReplyDeleteThe difference between facetiousness and sarcasm is not in quantity of humor, but in quality of humor. And obviousness. The latter openly mocks something.
ReplyDeleteFor example, when gas prices were really high, one time there was a guest speaker talking to graduate students. He said something to the extent of US invading Iraq only to get control over the gas. To which I answered: “This is why gas prices are so low, right?” It was obvious I was not being serious and was mocking his liberal idiocy. So, this was sarcasm.
Now, a friend of mine who is a kindergarden teacher just posted the following question: “Does anyone have any ideas for Black History month that I can teach my Kindergarteners who have little to no contact with people outside the orthodox Jewish community?”
I answered: “Crown Heights riots”.
Now, that answer is not mocking anything. Maybe it’s very subtly mocking the concept of black history month, political correctness and forcing friendly relationship between Jews and Blacks. But for the most part, it’s just saying something bizarre and ridiculous. Also, it’s not very obviously a joke (in fact, it doesn’t look like my friend got I was joking). So, this makes it facetious.
Merriam-Webster
ReplyDeleteMain Entry: fa·ce·tious
Pronunciation: \fə-ˈsē-shəs\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle French facetieux, from facetie jest, from Latin facetia
Date: 1599
1 : joking or jesting often inappropriately : waggish (just being facetious)
2 : meant to be humorous or funny : not serious (a facetious remark)
Main Entry: sar·casm
Pronunciation: \ˈsär-ˌka-zəm\
Function: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwarəs- to cut
Date: 1550
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm
http://thecommonparlance.blogspot.com/2007/10/facetious-v-sarcastic.html
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Google!?
Ahh yes, a very appropriate way to spend the last night of bochurhood. I, in case anyone is interested:
ReplyDeleteA. Participated in a very nice family dinner.
B. Watched the Packers beat the Bears.
C. Got mildly inebriated at a bar with some kindly relations.
D. Got about four hours of sleep.
Oh, and yeah, I knew the French were involved.
ReplyDeleteRe trs
ReplyDeleteis this a revelation to le7?
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Possibly. Why, three nights after you got married, are you online?
ReplyDeleteEll e 7 brachos
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